Can you get a blue kitten from two chocolate parent cats?

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Permalink Reply by Karolyn Ivanof 'Osheema Devonrex on July 7, 2010 at 18:34

Yes, interesting there must be alot in incorrect registering here in Australia. I feel the Dam Coco Chanel must be a seal tortie mink and not choc torti mink. I am sure Merchucchio the stud boy is a choc spotted tabby & white, his Mum the same and his Sire a Choc Point. I will get Coco Chanel No.5 DNA tested so I can finally get my pedigree papers for Ms Henny Penny the blue torti girl. I must say I have had alot of gorgeous lilac kittens and chocs - it's just that the delightfully eccentric Ms Henny Penny has thrown a spanner in the works!!! lol

Pam Dowling said:

Can somebody please point me to his pedigree so I can see if I can help? Yes, chocolate cats can definitely carry blue. But from 2 choc cats you can get only choc and lilac offspring. Maybe Merc's chocolatepoint parent is really sealpoint? And yes, Brown Tabby is genetically Black Tabby. Colour on Aussie pedigrees are generally a nightmare because so many registries there don't register on genotype, and so many breeders don't know their genetics and so register incorrectly.

Nicole said:

Just looking at the pedigree... Merc's parents are chocolate point and choc spotted / white so he could not be black tabby, could he? I get very confused with the chocolate/brown thing. Especially when it comes to tabbies.
And it makes it harder when pedigrees have both brown tabby and choc tabby listed. Because isn't brown tabby actually black tabby? I don't know and I have probably confused you more.
LOL

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Permalink Reply by Pam Dowling on July 7, 2010 at 18:54

Just for interest Karolyn, could you send her pedigree to me please? madcap -at- orcon.net.nz. It's marvellous now that we can DNA test and finally get colours sorted. I agree that Coco Chanel is likely to be the wrongly-registered one here, but sometimes the mistakes go back generations, some registries won't correct the colours unless *each of the original breeders* applies, and it can become a total nightmare getting it corrected.

I hope that nowadays, registries will accept DNA results to correct a cat's colour, even if they can't correct the ancestors. Will be interesting to see. Has anyone any experience of this happening?

Karolyn Ivanof 'Osheema Devonrex said:

Yes, interesting there must be alot in incorrect registering here in Australia. I feel the Dam Coco Chanel must be a seal tortie mink and not choc torti mink. I am sure Merchucchio the stud boy is a choc spotted tabby & white, his Mum the same and his Sire a Choc Point. I will get Coco Chanel No.5 DNA tested so I can finally get my pedigree papers for Ms Henny Penny the blue torti girl. I must say I have had alot of gorgeous lilac kittens and chocs - it's just that the delightfully eccentric Ms Henny Penny has thrown a spanner in the works!!! lol

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Permalink Reply by Karolyn Ivanof 'Osheema Devonrex on July 7, 2010 at 19:06

Hi Pam, yes I will send the pedigree of Coco Chanel no.5. I see what you mean. It's an old pedigree too so that could be a nightmare. Many thanks for that.

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Permalink Reply by Ann Hobson-Kelly on July 12, 2010 at 19:55

Hi Pam

Yes, here in the UK the GCCF will accept DNA testing to correct colour regardless of how the cats have been registered in the past.

Ann
www.nobilero.co.uk

Pam Dowling said:

Just for interest Karolyn, could you send her pedigree to me please? madcap -at- orcon.net.nz. It's marvellous now that we can DNA test and finally get colours sorted. I agree that Coco Chanel is likely to be the wrongly-registered one here, but sometimes the mistakes go back generations, some registries won't correct the colours unless *each of the original breeders* applies, and it can become a total nightmare getting it corrected.

I hope that nowadays, registries will accept DNA results to correct a cat's colour, even if they can't correct the ancestors. Will be interesting to see. Has anyone any experience of this happening?

Karolyn Ivanof 'Osheema Devonrex said:

Yes, interesting there must be alot in incorrect registering here in Australia. I feel the Dam Coco Chanel must be a seal tortie mink and not choc torti mink. I am sure Merchucchio the stud boy is a choc spotted tabby & white, his Mum the same and his Sire a Choc Point. I will get Coco Chanel No.5 DNA tested so I can finally get my pedigree papers for Ms Henny Penny the blue torti girl. I must say I have had alot of gorgeous lilac kittens and chocs - it's just that the delightfully eccentric Ms Henny Penny has thrown a spanner in the works!!! lol

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Permalink Reply by Pam Dowling on July 13, 2010 at 22:04

Thanks Ann, good to know, and great to see commonsense prevailing.


Yes, here in the UK the GCCF will accept DNA testing to correct colour regardless of how the cats have been registered in the past.

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